Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/09/1995 03:38 PM Senate STA

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               SENATE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE                                
                        February 9, 1995                                       
                           3:38 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Bert Sharp, Chairman                                                  
 Senator Loren Leman                                                           
 Senator Jim Duncan                                                            
 Senator Dave Donley                                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Randy Phillips, Vice-Chairman                                         
                                                                               
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                            
                                                                               
 SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR SENATE BILL NO. 4                                      
 "An Act allowing a person under age 21 to be arrested by a peace              
 officer without a warrant for illegal possession, consumption, or             
 control of alcohol; classifying certain offenses related to driving           
 while intoxicated or failure to submit to a chemical test as                  
 felonies; and providing for an effective date."                               
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                             
                                                                               
 SB 4 - No previous senate committee action.                                   
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Senator Robin Taylor                                                          
 State Capitol, Juneau, Alaska, 99801-1182¶465-3873                            
   POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of SB 4                                   
                                                                               
 Juanita Hensley, Chief, Driver Services                                       
 Div. of Motor Vehicles, Dept of Public Safety                                 
 P.O. Box 20020, Juneau, AK 99811-0020¶463-5860                                
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on SB 4                                       
                                                                               
 Joe Ambrose, Aide to Senator Taylor                                           
 State Capitol, Juneau, Alaska, 99801-1182¶465-3873                            
   POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of SB 4                                   
                                                                               
 Dave Tyler                                                                    
 Alaska State Fire Chief's Association                                         
 Fairbanks, AK¶479-5672                                                        
   POSITION STATEMENT: in favor of SB 4                                        
                                                                               
 Lee Ann Lucas, Special Assistant to the Commissioner                          
 Department of Public Safety                                                   
 P.O. Box 111200, Juneau, AK 99811-1200¶465-4322                               
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on SB 4                                       
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-4, SIDE A                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
 SSTA - 2/9/95                                                                 
                                                                               
                      SB   4 DWI LAWS                                       
                                                                              
 CHAIRMAN SHARP calls the Senate State Affairs Committee to order at           
 3:38 p.m. and brings up SB 4 as the first order of business before            
 the committee.  The chairman calls the first witness.                         
                                                                               
 Number 012                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR, prime sponsor of SB 4 reads the sponsor statement.            
                                                                               
 Number 125                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY asks what the penalty would be for a person                    
 committing their third DWI in a period of five years and one day.             
                                                                               
 Number 137                                                                    
                                                                               
 JUANITA HENSLEY, Department of Public Safety, responds the offender           
 would have their license suspended for three years with 60 days               
 minimum mandatory incarceration.                                              
                                                                               
 (Penalties are listed under paragraph 1, subsections A through F in           
 SB 4.)                                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN states he is concerned that DWI's acquired in an area           
 with DWI laws different from Alaska's cannot be counted as previous           
 DWI's.  He is especially troubled that they cannot be counted for             
 persons under 21 years of age.                                                
                                                                               
 JOE AMBROSE, Aide to Senator Taylor, informs the committee that               
 section 1 of SB 4 is the only section which applies to persons                
 under the age of 21.                                                          
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asks if it wouldn't be good to bring Alaska into                
 consistency.                                                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR replies the average drunk driver apprehended is                
 blowing twice the legal limit.  The sad part is if we change our              
 law, then our law would only count as a second offense in seven               
 other states.  Senator Taylor suggests it would be nice to pass a             
 law basing the penalty for drunk driving on how high a person's               
 blood alcohol content is.  However the state would run into                   
 problems with administration and equal protection.                            
 Number 250                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asks, regarding confiscation of motor vehicles, if              
 that would constitute "double jeopardy", or being punished twice              
 for the same crime.                                                           
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP adds that part of the problem arises from the fact             
 that one is a civil action and one is a criminal action.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR thinks part of the problem might be that different             
 people get different treatment, depending on the value of the                 
 vehicle they are driving.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 275                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY asks how the fines in SB 4 are affected by the day-            
 fine bill passed last year, if at all.                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR does not have an answer to that question.                      
                                                                               
 Number 285                                                                    
                                                                               
 DAVE TYLER, State Fire Chief's Association, testifying via                    
 teleconference from Fairbanks, states SB 4 is an important bill.              
 Mr. Tyler also thinks it might be a good concept to have higher               
 penalties for higher blood alcohol contents (bac).  It is a known             
 fact that a person with a bac of 0.3 or 0.4 can die.  But Mr. Tyler           
 has actually seen "walking, talking 0.6's", and has heard of a case           
 of 0.725 in Anchorage.   A person cannot achieve that high a bac by           
 just sitting down and drinking enough beer.  It takes a person a              
 long time before they can drink to that level bac.  The higher the            
 bac, the more habitual a drinker the person is.                               
                                                                               
 MR. TYLER adds SB 4 is important to emergency response personnel.             
 Response personnel have found from experience that alcohol is                 
 generally involved in bad accidents.  There is a great deal of risk           
 to response personnel.  This all falls back to the irresponsibility           
 of someone who is committing a crime.  It is time that people be              
 held accountable for their actions.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 325                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP notes SB 4 will not be moved from the Senate State             
 Affairs Committee today.  The committee is waiting for a fiscal               
 note.                                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 328                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks if the committee will also be receiving a                 
 position paper from the administration.                                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP hopes to see one with the fiscal note.                         
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks if there is no one from the administration                
 available to testify today.                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP asks if there is anyone from the administration in             
 the audience who would like to testify on SB 4.                               
                                                                               
 Number 335                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. HENSLEY replies she is available to address technical                     
 questions.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks if the administration supports SB 4.                      
                                                                               
 LEE ANN LUCAS, Special Assistant to the Commissioner, Department of           
 Public Safety, responds that the administration is reviewing the              
 bill at this time; they are waiting to see the fiscal notes.                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN states he would like to know the administration's              
 position on SB 4.                                                             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP responds the committee will work with the sponsor of           
 SB 4 and the administration to get a position paper from the                  
 administration.                                                               
                                                                               
 MS. HENSLEY states there will be significant fiscal impact on the             
 departments from SB 4.  The administration wants to give accurate             
 numbers on the fiscal notes.  Those numbers should be ready for the           
 committee by next week.                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 340                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY asks Ms. Hensley if it is a mandatory minimum                  
 sentence of one year for the third DWI offense within five years.             
                                                                               
 MS. HENSLEY replies that is correct, and would include a minimum              
 fine of $1,000.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 365                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY asks why the fine would be left at $1,000, even                
 though the jail time is being increased.                                      
                                                                               
 MS. HENSLEY responds that the minimum fine is $1,000.  The maximum            
 fine allowed is $5,000.                                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY thinks a higher fine might be more of a deterrent to           
 driving while intoxicated.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 375                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. HENSLEY replies a law was passed a couple of years ago                    
 requiring a DWI offender to pay up to $1,000 to serve his or her              
 time in jail.  If the offender did not have $1,000, then their                
 permanent fund dividend was forfeited.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 380                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP announces SB 4 will be held pending receipt of the             
 fiscal note.                                                                  
 CHAIRMAN SHARP adjourns the Senate State Affairs Committee meeting            
 at 4:06 p.m.                                                                  
                                                                               

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